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Saturday, March 28, 2009

Some things again

A response from this discusion topic

I have posted in my space:

I´ll answer your questions after I give my opinion first :
Sometimes is complicated for people to understand a different vision of love , thatn what is sold in this society every day.
Commonly,most People has a selfish and egolatrist pocesive idea of love, conformist ,lax,unresponsible and whimsical idea of what love is.
Therefore this make people to confuse their vision over this world and how things come to be.
I feel so upset by reading this on and on.
do you really think that all the people in history who had faith Jesus didn´t understood all (or most)of this things just by reading the bible or by God´s revelation?
why there are people who believes and people who don´t ?
people who can understand and people who don´t?
Now let me say this , God is faithful , as he decided to stablish this world , he also decided that he will let it to exist even with all the corruption therein , just for the sake of those who where going to be saved , then there will be a judgement , and all the previous suffering will not be remembered.
What it is a moment of suffering when you know that you are doing the right thing ? .
It is so complicated ?
If you think you don´t understand ,there are some things to do just leave it like that or try to understand it.
Even so ,a bit of humbleness it is to say that as we are humans and God is God , we can not have an understandig of his judgements into a whole extent , unless that you consider yourself capable of being God, and repeat the same mistake as some of our ancestors , as even today much people does.
because , you can see everyday in the news or in streets who rules this human society world and how it is .
Now ,before continuing on; this is a life. not the whole life. men was made to live a life then the judgement.
Life can not be for men in flesh, but should be in spirit.
"For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? 37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? 38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels."

well , just get ready when Jesus come and will see what happens, let hope we are worth to be in his sight.
So lets follow this :

Why would a loving parent allow any of their children, let alone their only child to die if they could stop it?
I don't know about you, but in I feel that a parent should do anything in their power to protect their children. I also think that any loving parent would do anything in their power, maybe if try things out of their power to keep their child/children safe.


A Loving man certainly does not, Neither God.

psalm 16 :1
1 Preserve me, O God: for in thee do I put my trust.
2 O my soul, thou hast said unto the LORD, Thou art my Lord: my goodness extendeth not to thee;
3 But to the saints that are in the earth, and to the excellent, in whom is all my delight.
4 Their sorrows shall be multiplied that hasten after another god: their drink offerings of blood will I not offer, nor take up their names into my lips.
5 The LORD is the portion of mine inheritance and of my cup: thou maintainest my lot.
6 The lines are fallen unto me in pleasant places; yea, I have a goodly heritage.
7 I will bless the LORD, who hath given me counsel: my reins also instruct me in the night seasons.
8 I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved.
9 Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope.
10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
11 Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

Why would a loving God allow Satan to tempt Eve in the first place? In theory he would have know she would have fallen. Why would a loving god allow his children to put put in a situation he knew they couldn't handle?
Because they could have handle it , God did not created robots , . even after they corrupted themselves , God gave them chanse to repent .
Why would a all-powerful god need people to follow him? Why would a loving god let all those who didn't go to hell?
In your question there is the answer , just because God does not want people to go to hell.
you know that darkness can not exist where there is light , so those who are in darkness can not be saved. So God gave men the way of rightiouness .
Why do so many Christians deny the possibility that the bible has mistranslations when solid evidence says other wise?"
The Bible is the inspired word of God , God beliberatedly made it in a way that not everyone could understandt it in the whole meaning just by reading as a mere book,end even understanding by grace , the spiritual meaning, there are plenty of interpretations of prophecy regaridng the time where it was wrinted , the personal life , and future times into a same prophecy.
. certainly in modern translation there are some mistakes, that´s why people who believes that in the past there was more accurate translations relies in older translations . As for english ,the original king james version
He who loves knowledge knows discipline, he who hates correction is stupid." Proverbs 12:1
For the record, I may not Christian, that does not make me Atheist. So please dont give me the "we are to complex to be chance" rant, I already agree with you.

A wolf like that you had on your icon already knews that God exist . And I dont think he will have a problem with having to suffer all the crap out of humans.
after all , in the life there is the sake of desiring something better and the desire of life and being rightious and having a love for live, .

" Truly, truly, I say to you, That you shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and you shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy. 21 A woman when she is in travail has sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembers no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. 22 And you now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man takes from you. "

33"These things I have spoken to you, that in me you might have peace. In the world you shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."

"11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever."

Friday, March 27, 2009

El aspecto de Jesus

Que tema tan polemico e interesante, de alguna forma todos creemos que si no esta la descripción en la Biblia por algo es, creo que en este tema cuando Jesus buelba mas de uno se va a sorprender . La verdad algo de esto hube buscado en opiniones diversas analizando la informacion que esta en la biblia, y creo que al final si uno lo toma como una conjetura y no como una verdad 100% , creo que se puede hablar de esto ahora esto es lo que pude ver sobre este tema:
Primero comensando con el supuesto origen de la imagen tan difundida del Jesus europeo :
Al parecer el papa Alejandro VI (Rodrigo de Borja) tuvo un hijo al que llamo César Borgia (mas conocido como Cesare Borgia) , y para resumir la cuestion es que el Papa este (que se dice que tenia relaciones incestuosas ), queria mucho a su hijo y le encargo al Leo davinci (que pertenecia a la secta de los rosacruz) que lo pintara como Jesus.
y de ahi la imagen tan difundida .El sujeto Cesare en cuestión entre otras cosas parece que mato al hermano etc.
Que dice la biblia el aspecto verdadero del hijo de Dios y que se puede sacar en conclusion respecto de cuestiones laterales.:
Referencia en isaias:
"No hay parecer en él, ni hermosura. Le veremos, mas sin atractivo para que le deseemos. "
(El Padre tiene el mismo aspecto que el hijo)
Estuve mirando hasta que fueron puestas sillas; y un Anciano de gran edad se sentó, cuyo vestido era blanco como la nieve, y el pelo de su cabeza como lana limpia; su silla llama de fuego, sus ruedas fuego ardiente.
y alzando mis ojos miré, y he aquí un varón vestido de lienzos, y ceñidos sus lomos de oro muy fino; 6 y su cuerpo era como piedra de Tarsis (turquesa ), y su rostro parecía un relámpago, y sus ojos como antorchas de fuego, y sus brazos y sus pies como de color de bronce resplandeciente, y la voz de sus palabras como la voz de un ejército.

y en medio de los siete candeleros, uno semejante al Hijo de hombre, vestido de una ropa que llegaba hasta los pies, y ceñido por los pechos con una cinta de oro. 14 Y su cabeza y sus cabellos eran blancos como la lana blanca, como la nieve; y sus ojos como llama de fuego; 15 y sus pies semejantes al latón fino, ardientes como en un horno; y su voz como ruido de muchas aguas. 16 Y tenía en su diestra siete estrellas; y de su boca salía una espada aguda de dos filos. Y su rostro era como el sol cuando resplandece en su fuerza. "

Como alguien remarco anteriormente, es claro que Jesus siguio la costumbre de no cortarse el cabello ni barba , muy probablemente nisiquiera un poco .por lo que a los treinta ya deveria tener una barba y cabellera considerable.
(Jesus es llamado el Leon de la tribu de Juda , y para ser Leon hace falta melena :) )
De la misma forma esta escrito que sus cabellos eran como la lana , Los corderos tienen en su pelo natural el pelo largo agrupado en fibras enruladas , por lo que se puede asumir que Jesus no tenia el pelo lacio.
De la misma forma puede asumirse que al ser carpintero tiene que haber sido bastante fuerte, teniendo en cuenta que todo el trabajo era 100% manual y con herramientas pesadas.
De la misma forma con respecto al color de la piel , se dice que "era como el bronce bruñido" y "que sus ojos eran llama de fuego"
por lo que queda muy probablemente es que jesus era de piel oscura , por que ?
la Luz del espiritu santo emanaba desde el interior del cuerpo , por lo que si hubiera tenido la piel blanca o simplemente bronceada , en la vista exterior se hubira visto todo blanca, y no como bronce bruñido , por esta razon es que el las revelaciones la cabeza se ve blanca y los pies como bronce en un horno ,
los ojos son la lampara del cuerpo como Dijo Jesus, de esta forma el efecto del cuerpo de Jesus es como el de una lampara vidriada que emana el fuego del espiritu De Dios en el interior , que es lo que describe Daniel y Juan en sus visiones. y al ser la piel oscura producia el efecto fulgurante de bronce brillante que vieron Juan y Daniel.

Otro punto importante es tener en cuenta que Jesus guarda las marcas de la cruz en su Cuerpo , y que:
"He aquí que viene con las nubes, y todo ojo le verá, y los que le traspasaron; y todos los linajes de la tierra se lamentarán sobre él. Así sea. Amén."
Todos los linajes son todos.