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Saturday, May 7, 2011

abbadon p 2

forumextract from me comenting  :P

I wont continue this off topic discussion, but I will try to explain two new topics added to this, which I rather not leave in blank for it is not what I meant to say:
sorry for my bad english, I meant:
my interpretation is not a classical interpretation.
my particular perception about your exposition is that your interpretation is *"

Precisely that was all the big post all about, I used it as an example for interpretation being influenced by classical teachings including a lot of condiment unexistant in the bible. not for an off topic.

All the information added regarding that character being a fallen angel in several definitions is not found in the bible.

All the beast in the bible written as coming out of the sea are coming out of the bottomples pit.
bu the bible does not say abbadon is comming out off the bottome less pit.
it says the locus came out first, but abbadon is mentioned as a previously presented  character.
or as much as a character from which is not mentioned from where it comes, only to what is related: OF the bottomles pit
(but I know that even if not mentioned, not necesary is unexistant.)

From bible.cc Strong
[quote]Strong concordance:
Abaddon.

Of Hebrew origin ('abaddown); [b]a destroying angel[/b] -- Abaddon.

see HEBREW 'abaddown

Ἀβαδδὼν (abaddōn) − 1 Occurrence
<< 622   
623. Apolluón
   
624 >>
"a destroyer," Apollyon, the angel of the abyss
Original Word: Ἀπολλύων, ονος, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: Apolluón
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ol-loo'-ohn)
Short Definition: Apollyon, Destroyer
Definition: Apollyon, The Destroying One, a Greek translation of the Hebrew: Abaddon.

[b]Cognate: 623 Apollýōn (from 622 /apóllymi, "cause to perish, be ruined") – properly, "the destroyer" (from the Abyss), i.e. Satan (used only in Rev 9:11).[/b]
Word Origin
active participle of apollumi
Definition
"a destroyer," Apollyon, the angel of the abyss
NASB Word Usage
Apollyon (1).


(in the last definition the author added "satan", thats clearly a personal interpretation which will influence readers...)
it means the destroyer.
Thats why I posted all the bible quotes, there are many places in which the angel of the lord is called "the destroyer" , 
abbadon is not called king abbadon, is named as being a king (boss) over those critters coming outside the bottomless pit. Paul mentioned the existance of many orders of powers.

[/quote]
In the New Testament the word occurs once (Re 9:11), the personalization becoming sharp. Abaddon is here not the world of the dead, but the angel who reigns over it. The Greek equivalent of his name is given as Apollyon. Under this name Bunyan presents him in the Pilgrim’s Progress, and Christendom has doubtless been more interested in this presentation of the matter than in any other.[/quote]
the previous fit my theory I think... a theory among others written on a forum post... sorry for the off topic

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